Dan Hodges
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first heard Jun 2026
last heard 16 Sep
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But the majority of Labour MPs understand you do not defeat Nigel Farage by articulating an incredibly liberal view on open borders or by reopening the Brexit argument.
Now, it's not to say there aren't people within the Labour Party who do want to see those arguments articulated.
But certainly for the first six to 12 months of a Burnham premiership, those people will find themselves pushed to the background
if Burnham can present himself as, as I said, someone who can be an antidote to reform.
And what I think part of what he will do, there will definitely be in some sort of areas a shift to the left.
But as we've seen within reform, there are elements of reforms policies, particularly on the economic side, which themselves are quite left wing.
And Kemi Badenoch has obviously done a good job in articulating, critiquing that.
So this idea that Andy Burnham comes in and he's just gonna be another starmer liberal lefty,
That's not going to be his job at the beginning.
His job is going to be save us from Farage.
And there is an appreciation.
Firstly, Andy Burnham appreciates this himself and the people around him do, and also a number of Labour MPs.
They may not like it, but they understand that if they do want Andy Burnham to see off Nigel Farage, there are certain things Andy Burnham is going to have to do and say that maybe they wouldn't normally feel that comfortable with.
And certainly they weren't going to let Keir Starmer get away with it when Keir Starmer had a popularity of minus 44.
If Andy Burnham can retain any sort of national popularity and can demonstrate any sort of bounce in the polls at the moment and can in any way narrow the gap between Labour and reform, then he will get a bit of breathing space from his party.
If he messes it up, they'll take his head off.
But in the short term...
they'll give him in the short term, they'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
And any decision... Yeah, but as I said, that's what having the breathing space is.
He will be given the opportunity initially, if he wants to take it, to deal with some, to take some difficult decisions.
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