Dan Hodges

a sort of a replication of the problem reform have just had in Maker Field, which is Andy Burnham's opponents at the moment don't really know what the best line of attack is on Andy Burnham.

So we had there simultaneously, he's basically exactly the same as Keir Starmer.

He doesn't know what he believes in, but he's actually somehow a creature of the hard left.

And the last time I heard, I saw, and I'm by no means going to broaden this comparison, but the last time I saw sort of people struggling to sort of get a handle on how to criticise a politician was when the Tories were trying to deal with Blair and couldn't work out whether or not to say he's this slick, slimy politician

sort of deceitful operator who doesn't really believe in anything, or he's actually secretly as hard left and dangerous as the hard left.

And if you remember the whole demon eyes thing,

that was going on and there's a bit of that there's a bit of a sort of a demon andy sort of sort of confusion i i i think just come on no but but i mean no but but do you know what i mean people are running people are telling me but people people are simultaneously saying to me andy burnham doesn't believe anything he's always flip-flopping he doesn't believe in anything

And then simultaneously saying he's actually almost as hard left as Jeremy Corbyn.

Now, the two can't be the two.

The two can't be right.

But just just just to step back onto a couple of things in terms of the broader conversation we've been having, the conversation we'll be having moving forward.

There is one thing that we know for certain about Andy Burnham, right, which is he is not Keir Starmer.

And before we get into any discussion about, you know, have reform peaked?

What's going to happen with Labour?

Can Kemi Badnock bring the Tories back to life?

The one thing we're going to have to wait for is Keir Starmer's removal.

Now, you were talking about the, you know, the predictions.

Everything I'm hearing this evening

If Keir Starmer doesn't announce on Monday stepping down or Tuesday or Wednesday stepping down, I'd be amazed.

But so I think that's the sort of timeframe we're looking at now.