Dan Houser

It's going to help people be creative in some ways.

It's going to get some people who probably shouldn't be in that space out of that space.

But if you've got talent, then you'll be fine.

Which ones?

Yeah, I read quite a bit when they first did Crime and Punishment.

That was amazing.

I don't think they're going to come up with magic.

I think they're going to be fantastic at coming up with really cheap, decent stuff.

I mean, when we printed out the scripts for GTA 4, it was about this high.

And GTA 5 is about that high.

But that was including all the pedestrians who'd have pages and pages just to create the illusion of a living world.

Because you interact with each one of them.

But even the main script for the main mission was thousands of pages long.

Bit by bit by bit over several years.

But you start with once people are determined, oh, here's the world.

We're doing one based on a version of New York, say GTA 4.

And I was living in New York.

I'd been living in New York for a few years.

Wasn't sure if I was happy.

Was going through a lot of...