Dan Houser

I really can't remember, to be honest with you.

But yeah, I certainly would have edited it and Mike might have written it or I might have written it.

I really can't remember.

Oh, but we certainly talked about it in depth.

And if Mike was here, I'd ask him.

He might remember.

We do so much of those things.

And I loved the use of letters in Red Dead to tell all these weird backstories.

And some became very clear and some were still a little kind of opaque.

But the general vibe was there was no Gavin.

Either there was no Gavin or he'd long since left.

So it's kind of a split personality.

And then we were going to over subsequent games provide more information.

No, Gavin existed.

So it wasn't that he was a split personality.

And the only thing we hadn't really decided was in a future game, were we going to reveal that Gavin was dead?

Or was Gavin going to turn up having long since abandoned this maniac?

You know, that was what we're still playing around with.

I think the idea was that he was never going to meet Gavin in this game.

And it has to feel fresh.