Dan Houser

And I want to go over and do what you want.

And that's why it works well being a criminal because you fundamentally don't have anyone telling you what to do.

And we try and create external agency through these people kind of forcing you into the story at times.

But as a spy, that doesn't really work because you have to be against the clock.

So I think for me, I question if you can even make a good open world spy game.

And cruise about.

So lots of things would work as open world games, but I don't know if a spy does.

Well, you can't.

And so you need this time pressure.

And then we played around with a Knights concept that was, you know, Knights and sort of trying to do a version of a mythological game that could have been fun and, you know, still love that idea, but never went very far with it.

Yeah, I would have to.

Never got to writing any of it.

Just did some backstory and played around with a few ideas.

But it was always something I thought I would never do and then kind of fell in love with it a little bit.

Of course.

It was my whole, you know, it was my life for 20 something years, 21 years or something.

Yeah.

It was, and I moved to America to do it and grew up doing it.

And I was always living in New York.

It was a...