Dan McDonald

It's just, of the outcomes that could have happened going, I was at the draw on the day, everyone knew there was a 25% chance of denying a scenario.

And it did happen.

But I think they've frozen since then.

Like, I was reporting yesterday, I think David Carell

I was talking to the FEI board, you know, there was a board meeting last week where everyone had to give their position and I think he was still coming to the table with like a 60-40.

It's like at this stage, still just afraid, you know, in my view, just can't,

can't commit to something on it, you know?

Oh, yeah, 60-40 neutral.

I think in the FBI's heads, there's still a sense that they have to play the game.

I mean, they are afraid.

And I think, again, at times it's been...

sometimes probably deliberately interpreted in a particular way that people think there's going to be these strong ramifications of being kicked out of UEFA or losing the Euro 2028 hosting rights.

Just to be clear, that's not on the table at all.

And that is an important point to stress.

And it's sort of put out there sometimes as sort of misinformation.

The sanction is losing the two games.

And then the possibility of...

of relegation.

But I think that the thing that the FA are concerned about is that one of the biggest income sources they receive is a centralised TV deal from UEFA, which is obviously based around committing and participating in a certain number of fixtures, so that if the FA were responsible for two games not taking place...

And then they might be on the hook financially for that.