Dan McDonnell

It's been exposed.

It's been exposed for what it was.

No, maybe not.

Have you been on New Zealand radio?

I've been on there like, you know, oh no, you guys, you need to sort yourselves out down there.

You know, I like that.

So to find out what's going on with New Zealand rugby, we're going to go many thousand kilometres away.

I mean, that is... He's hit the big time.

That's a good one.

No, that's not quite right.

I accept his point though.

Yeah, I mean, I will say like Gasparini definitely feeds into this thing because it seems like every post-match interview, it's like someone going to like the diary room at the end of an episode of Big Brother where they talk about how he feels about everyone else in the house.

It seems, and look, I know that we all, but I'm trying to think of a, I don't know, Jacarese or someone at Arsenal.

After every game, is Arteta going, well, he was good today.

No, I feel maybe today he's in a bad moment.

No, you know, I can't almost keep up with this drama anymore.

of this Gasparini-Ferguson.

So he does feed into it and as a result there's massive interest in him and just becomes a thing.

He is running his mouth off this guy.

It's relentless.