Dan Novaes

But ultimately, that's how we got started in software and then ran a lot of different apps

know through the years and you know that kind of led to you know what we do now with mode is kind of all that learning all those different businesses um and uh we sold a lot of parts a lot of the app studio and apps to you know other people along the way um but that's kind of like the story of those you know early 20s uh and and you know the pivots along the way all right just so so for those of folks that are listening right how many dogs did you have i mean did you guys just literally go on a streak of winners or did you were there a couple just dogs

know through the years and you know that kind of led to you know what we do now with mode is kind of all that learning all those different businesses um and uh we sold a lot of parts a lot of the app studio and apps to you know other people along the way um but that's kind of like the story of those you know early 20s uh and and you know the pivots along the way all right just so so for those of folks that are listening right how many dogs did you have i mean did you guys just literally go on a streak of winners or did you were there a couple just dogs

know through the years and you know that kind of led to you know what we do now with mode is kind of all that learning all those different businesses um and uh we sold a lot of parts a lot of the app studio and apps to you know other people along the way um but that's kind of like the story of those you know early 20s uh and and you know the pivots along the way all right just so so for those of folks that are listening right how many dogs did you have i mean did you guys just literally go on a streak of winners or did you were there a couple just dogs

I mean, the app builder was a dog and the entire thesis of that business. Um, it's not that it was like that business. Some people made it work. Like I, I just like, wasn't built to be a founder. I think like that, because I was like, I've always been a mass consumer founder. I would say like every business I've ever operated has been like a B2C business focused on getting consumers in the door.

I mean, the app builder was a dog and the entire thesis of that business. Um, it's not that it was like that business. Some people made it work. Like I, I just like, wasn't built to be a founder. I think like that, because I was like, I've always been a mass consumer founder. I would say like every business I've ever operated has been like a B2C business focused on getting consumers in the door.

I mean, the app builder was a dog and the entire thesis of that business. Um, it's not that it was like that business. Some people made it work. Like I, I just like, wasn't built to be a founder. I think like that, because I was like, I've always been a mass consumer founder. I would say like every business I've ever operated has been like a B2C business focused on getting consumers in the door.

That's like what I'm good at. That's what I like to do. Um, and so, uh, that's, So that didn't work. And then you have this consumer app, and that did, and that prevented the capital. Then we were like, oh, okay, let's make all these other apps. And we did these celebrity apps. We were the first ones to use. We were going Vine kids. At the time, Vine was big.

That's like what I'm good at. That's what I like to do. Um, and so, uh, that's, So that didn't work. And then you have this consumer app, and that did, and that prevented the capital. Then we were like, oh, okay, let's make all these other apps. And we did these celebrity apps. We were the first ones to use. We were going Vine kids. At the time, Vine was big.

That's like what I'm good at. That's what I like to do. Um, and so, uh, that's, So that didn't work. And then you have this consumer app, and that did, and that prevented the capital. Then we were like, oh, okay, let's make all these other apps. And we did these celebrity apps. We were the first ones to use. We were going Vine kids. At the time, Vine was big.

So we were really ahead of a lot of trends. And some of them made that money, but not to the scale of that first InstaLiker app. And that was actually a big life lesson, I would say, because if we just would have focused on some of the core value props that we were doing, instead of wanting to aim for a billion-dollar outcome, instead of a several million,

So we were really ahead of a lot of trends. And some of them made that money, but not to the scale of that first InstaLiker app. And that was actually a big life lesson, I would say, because if we just would have focused on some of the core value props that we were doing, instead of wanting to aim for a billion-dollar outcome, instead of a several million,

So we were really ahead of a lot of trends. And some of them made that money, but not to the scale of that first InstaLiker app. And that was actually a big life lesson, I would say, because if we just would have focused on some of the core value props that we were doing, instead of wanting to aim for a billion-dollar outcome, instead of a several million,

or a figure but i was like so enamored with billion dollar outcome billionaire outcome um and i just couldn't make it happen and so uh eventually though uh it did lead to what became this business so i would say probably like 20 dude like honestly this company has almost failed 20 different times um and even even knew as early as a few years ago like you're still dealing with those ups and downs

or a figure but i was like so enamored with billion dollar outcome billionaire outcome um and i just couldn't make it happen and so uh eventually though uh it did lead to what became this business so i would say probably like 20 dude like honestly this company has almost failed 20 different times um and even even knew as early as a few years ago like you're still dealing with those ups and downs

or a figure but i was like so enamored with billion dollar outcome billionaire outcome um and i just couldn't make it happen and so uh eventually though uh it did lead to what became this business so i would say probably like 20 dude like honestly this company has almost failed 20 different times um and even even knew as early as a few years ago like you're still dealing with those ups and downs

Um, because it's anything but easy, you know, and then do you see when you think something's going great?

Um, because it's anything but easy, you know, and then do you see when you think something's going great?

Um, because it's anything but easy, you know, and then do you see when you think something's going great?

Um, you know, in 2021, 2022, we had like an insane, even with node, our current business, like an insane growth rate and everything's going because at the time we were making a ton of revenue off of like, you know, crypto companies and, uh, financial like neobanks that were super high valued and money's cheap. So everyone's go public.