Dan Shepard

My hope comes from the well-documented pattern of young people hating whatever the people before them did.

And what we did was so loud and obvious that I can only hope they're just going to reject that.

That's where my hope lies.

Okay.

So I read, this is why there's no liberal Joe Rogan in the New York times that you did an op-ed on this.

And I just loved it.

And I want to go through the points you made in it a bit.

So let's just talk about Joe Rogan for a minute, because I'll just tell you historically where we come from.

Like, A, I don't agree with him on much stuff, right?

It's not my brand of masculinity.

I respect the work ethic.

I respect the thing he's built.

I respect that he doesn't seem beholden to binary options.

His politics seem to be all over the map.

I respect his authenticity.

I think he's very fucking true to who he is.

Pretty unwavering.

So I've never joined on the bandwagon of hating him or loving him.

So that's just where I stand on him.

And the left was really giving that a lot of credit.