Dane Archery

It's a convo for another day.

But I think the difference isn't how good he was.

It's just we don't idolize people in New Zealand.

We don't idolize our own.

But let an American do something well, and we're like, wow.

You know what I mean?

Like even look at, I don't know, I'm a rap fan, but like,

Nobody seems to speak about Kiwi rappers, but like dudes like Mellow Downs, he'll go with the best from the States.

You know what I mean?

But we'll never champion him to that level.

And that's just a cultural thing.

But for that, there's still heaps of positives to that, right?

The keeping us humble, the work rate, the fact that all blacks did what they did for so long.

It's sad it's over now.

It's kind of a win that I'm...

south african-born but you know i'm an all-blacks fan don't get that to us the south african community will be screaming now but uh i know i left so long ago but when we left rugby wasn't for everyone in south africa yeah

But it was for everyone in New Zealand.

And like you moved to New Zealand and you live in, I always say Southeast Auckland, but I actually lived in East Auckland.

But when you say East Auckland in a rich town like Wanaka, they think St.

Heli is Kohimarama.