Daniel Coyle

And we have, you know, some adventures together.

And I never thought going out that I'd end up skydiving with Terry Francona in Arizona, which was probably a mistake, um, on a bunch of levels, but yeah,

these narrow things are connected to the relational ecosystem in which they're happening.

And so to kind of keep yourself, I've heard people describe it as a yellow door.

That's the way I talk in the book, right?

It's like keeping those yellow doors of relationship kind of open while you are kind of on your grind.

Oh, you bet.

Yeah.

She's something else, right?

I mean, she's just, she's a treasure.

She really is.

She really is.

In typical fashion, she did an experiment that was unique.

And that experiment was back in the 70s.

She rented a monastery in rural New England and then retrofitted it.

This is the kind of thing that makes you want to be a scientist, isn't it?

Retrofitted it to be 20 years or 25 years prior to 1975, whenever she did the experiment.

And

Uh, so they put on, you know, all the, all the furnishings, all the media, all the, you know, the record player, the, the, the TV became, instead of a color was black and white, the programs on the TV, instead of being modern, we're 20, 25 years old.

And then they brought in some, she asked for volunteers, anybody in their seventies.