Daniel Coyle

But when we think about it from the perspective of,

of a designer, what she did there was design for presence.

She designed for meaning.

She removed all the narrow things they normally have to deal with and filled the space with resonant symbols and connections.

And the connection itself just sort of grew in that space.

And so I think the lesson of that and the challenge of that is like, how do we create those kinds of time traveling machines in our house or in our space or in our work or with our family?

Oh, man.

Words of wisdom.

That's a high bar.

High bar, Jason.

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Words of wisdom.

I don't know.

I guess the thing, the little catchphrase that's been going through my head lately is like, drop the armor.

I sort of feel like when things are wrong, I walk around kind of all armored up and kind of ready.

It's stiff and it's protective and it's useful in certain situations, but most of the time it just...

makes you clumsy and gets in the way.

And so in these, you know, in spaces where you're trying to create relationships, trying to grow the garden of your life, like your life, it looks like a game, but it's not a game.