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Daniel Ek

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Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

Like, how do you consistently find lighting in a bottle?

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

Like, you know, and it's also theoretical at the point of any strategy book talking about how you do it.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

Or even when you go behind, I was, the other day I was with the guy, Hamilton Hamler, who wrote Seven Powers book.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

Which is an amazing book on strategy, by the way.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

But one of the most interesting ideas that I learned after sort of, again, overfitting the concepts in the book and sort of teaching people about it is you can only tell that you have power when it's there.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

It doesn't tell you how to get there.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

I actually think LLMs and the latest advancement in AI kind of have created an excellent framing on this and to talk about this sort of high temperature notion.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

So in LLMs, you can basically tune up the temperature.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

And if you tune up the temperature, it basically start hallucinating.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

So, you know, the bad thing with the hallucination, of course, is you have no idea what's true or not.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

But there is spurs of vocational brilliance that comes out of there and the truly new ideas that come out of there.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

So the criticism of the current generation LLMs is they're not very creative.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

And that's ultimately because we've kind of turned down the temperature on them and we've safety trained them to the point where we keep them within the guardrails.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

So there is a way when you train these things to be highly creative but batch it crazy.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

And that's just turning up the temperature.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

And I believe that one of the – and this is, by the way, something that I intend to focus a lot more on in the next decade.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

I'm very reflective at the moment because I am in my 19th year now.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

And I think it's interesting you sort of talked about big companies because I used to think, before I sort of ran a big company myself, I just used to think they're bad, period.

Huberman Lab
DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

And I've sort of revised my view and now I think they're really good at doing what they're already doing and doing it better.