Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
Your ability to make sense of the environment is just so little loaded on intelligence and so much more loaded on your ability to experiment and your ability to communicate with other people and pass down knowledge over time.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
Part of me was just like, I was doing that interview, I'm like, maybe ESI is fake, maybe just like... Let's hope.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
That's right.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
So what we're asking is to just radically boost up the technological maturity of civilization within the matter of years.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
Or get us to the Dyson Spheres in the matter of years.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
Rather than, yes, maybe causing a 10x-ing of the research.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
But I think human civilization would have taken centuries to get to the Dyson Spheres.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
I agree.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
We're on a totally different topic here of do you get the Dyson sphere?
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
There's one world where it's crazy, but it's still boring in the sense of
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
You know, the economy is growing much faster, but it would be like what the Industrial Revolution would look like to somebody in the year 1000.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
And that one is one where, you know, you're still trying different things.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
There's failure and success and experimentation.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
And then there's another where it's like the thing has happened, and now you send the probe out, and then you look out at the night sky six months later, and you see something occluding the sun.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
In your story, you have basically two different scenarios after some point.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
So yeah, what is a sort of crucial turning point and what happens in these two scenarios?
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
So in the world where they're getting deployed through the economy, but they are misaligned.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
And you, you're, you know, people in charge, at least at this moment, think that they are in a good position with regard to misalignment.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
It just seems with even smart humans, they get caught in weird ways because they don't have logical omniscience.
Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model — Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo
They don't realize the consequences of the way they did something which just obviously gave them away.