Daniel Kokotajlo
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687 appearances
4 recordings
4 series
first heard Apr 2025
last heard 19 Jun
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There's one thing where we try to protect jobs instead of just spreading the wealth that automation creates.
Another is to spread the wealth using existing social programs or creating new bespoke social programs where Medicaid is some double digit percent of GDP right now.
And you just say, well, Medicaid should continue to stay 20 percent of GDP or something.
And the worry there is.
selfishly from a human perspective is you'll get locked into the kinds of goods and services that Medicaid procures rather than the crazy technology that will be around, the crazy goods and services that will be around after AI world.
And another reason why UBI seems like a better approach than making some bespoke social program where you make the same dialysis machine in the year 2050 even though you've got ASI or something.
Okay, we've been talking about what we're going to do about people.
The thing worth noting about the future is that most of the people who will ever exist are going to be digital.
And...
Look, I think factory farming is, like, incredibly bad.
And it wasn't the result of some one person... I mean, I don't think it was the result of... I hope it wasn't the result of one person being like, I want to do this evil thing.
It was a result of...
mechanization and a certain economies of scale.
Incentives.
Yeah, allowing that like, oh, you can do cost-cutting in this way, you can make more efficiencies this way.
And what you get at the end result of that process is this incredibly efficient factory of torture and suffering.
I would want to avoid that kind of outcome with beings that are even more sophisticated and are more numerous.
There's billions of factory-farmed animals.
There might be trillions of digital people in the future.
What should we be thinking about in order to avoid this kind of ghoulish future?
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