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Darby Saxbe

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Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Mom is exhausted and already feeling like she's doing too much.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

We actually did a study about this in my lab where we brought the pregnant couples in and asked them to map out how they plan to divide baby care.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Then we brought them back after the baby's birth, did the same scale.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And in every case, moms were doing more after birth than the couple predicted.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Yeah.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

So, and that's not, it's like, it was surprising to us as researchers, but every single mom I've talked to about this is like, that's the least surprising thing I've ever heard, right?

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Because you can have these beautifully egalitarian intentions, but there are some biological realities in the early months.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And so I think it can be challenging for dads to fully participate unless the couple is really proactive about it.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Yeah, it's a great question.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

I mean, it's a really important question because there are all these gaps in our research.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And so much parenting research, like I said, is focused on moms, but even more of it is focused on cisgendered heterosexual parents.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

But we are very lucky to have a lab in L.A.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

because we were able to get a really ethnically, socioeconomically, racially diverse sample.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

It's actually changed a lot.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And for 95% of human history, we lived like hunter-gatherers.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

So we were foraging, occasionally hunting.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Women actually brought in more calories than men in many societies.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And so, you know, the whole sort of like when people say like working mothers are unnatural, it's like, no, mothers have always worked.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And in fact, they've been major generators of income, calories, resources.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And so the model in hunter-gatherer societies is a lot of cooperative care.