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Darby Saxbe

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1267 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

It's like alloparenting, which is cooperative breeding, like we are all collectively raising kids.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Like most humans were subsistence farmers who were just growing what they ate.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Mom, dad, and kids are all working together, right?

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Again, like moms are working.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Kids are working too.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Everybody's working together at home.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And then once you industrialize, you have this separate domain, which is the workplace, where someone has to physically go out and earn money.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Interestingly, the first factory workers were women, like the mill girls, like the Lowell textile mills in Massachusetts.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Women were considered better factory workers because they were more expendable.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

They weren't needed at home on the farm because they weren't working as hard as the men.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

So they went to factories.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

That sucked for them because the factories were exploitative and had bad conditions.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And then ultimately, like unionization happened, wages rose, men started being the ones that worked outside the home.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And so we kind of did this weird social experiment where like work became men's thing and home became women's thing.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Yeah.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And women were the primary caregivers of kids.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

But I think like you hear all this talk about how that's the natural order of things with neo-traditional gender roles, trad wives, all of that.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Yeah.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

And it's like, this is like 150 year blip.

Ologies with Alie Ward
Paternology (FATHERHOOD) with Darby Saxbe

Woof.