Darby Saxbe

This is not actually our most normal configuration.

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, I think if you look at time diary data, right, like big studies of, you know, like the American Time Youth Study, you see men are spending more time with kids than previous generations, and they're reporting that they enjoy it.

Oh, okay.

Especially after the pandemic, I think there was this shift in our feelings about work.

I think a lot of people like millennials, Gen Z started thinking like, I don't want my life to be my job, right?

It's like a different mentality from the boomers.

And they're like, I want to have time at home with my kids.

And so I think it's a value shift as well.

But that said, there's a lot of variability around this, right?

Because like,

And this is interesting, like the time trends really track with education, which is like a new thing.

That's a new disparity.

So the most educated affluent dads are the ones that are spending the most time with kids.

And it's the non-college men who are actually spending less time with kids than non-college men of previous generations.

So there is a little bit of a divide that's emerging in how men are kind of showing up as parents.

I think that's a big part of it because we also have this gig economy, right, where people are maybe patching together multiple jobs so you don't always have the stability.

But it's also intensive parenting culture.