Dave Dameshek

And then you mentioned J.J.

Redick, and I think that's an interesting one.

I think Christian Laettner is the face of loathsome Duke players.

But it's crazy how they have pretty consistently had at least one of those guys who you really, really, really hate.

Some white guy with just his sitting face, his smart ass.

I don't know why, but it just conveys that to the world every time the camera cuts to him.

No, Bobby Hurley also was a 1A.

He was also unlikable, in my opinion.

And Coach K sort of in between became more unlikable, I feel like, as things wore on.

No, in fact, to answer your question, as somebody older than you, the first real good Duke team that actually played

in the title game and lost to never nervous Purvis Ellison and Louisville.

That was an imminently likable team.

Johnny Dawkins and Billis and Mark Allery.

Was Ferry on that team?

Danny Ferry joined.

He was the freshman when all those guys got, you know, when they were upperclassmen.

Yeah, he kind of bridged the gap into the Leitner.

I think Leitner and Ferry.

I wonder if they overlapped.

I bet they did by a season or two.