Dave Dombrowski

And I respect him, always respect him as a player.

That speaks for itself.

And he's a great player in the way he handled it.

And he said, let me ask you a question.

He says, why does the industry not put more dollar value on some of those things?

And we had a long conversation about it.

and it's hard.

I think probably the way it is.

Now, what you don't know and I mean JT's outstanding, right?

He handles the staff well, he does all those other things.

But there, for example, let's just say you had a catcher that just did, let's say they hit 150 and they did all that.

What would you pay that person?

I don't have that exact answer, but it's one of those where it's a combination of the value, the defensive performance and all that, and the hitting aspect of our game.

I mean, you look at defensive shortstops throughout the years.

So the game has rewarded offense in many ways throughout the years.

Yet there are some positions that are more defensive.

When you talk about shortstop, you can talk about center field.

You can talk about catching.

And you don't want to not acknowledge how important those are.

What dollar figure do you put on it?