Dave Letele

You've allowed them to get to a capital position that allows them to do multiple things.

If you give us that same shot, it won't take us 30 years to do that.

It'll take us maybe five years.

Five years probably max.

And then we'll be at a similar level and we can do so much more than they can do for the people that the industry that was set up at that time forgot about.

And I think about that way...

with other Māori Pasifika businesses, the way that they spend money, you don't have to have, you don't have to tell them to have a human compartment of their business to look after people.

They will already do that.

You know, when you went back to the islands, that the way that they lived, the collective way of the way that the villages work, like if you just apply that to commerce,

then people generally won't get left behind in the gaps that exist in multiple different sectors in New Zealand.

And so for that reason, we choose to support Māori Pacifica businesses because of the way that they spend their money.

But people will say that, but doing it is actually really hard.

Yeah, that's right.

Because it's just the way that they work.

Like I know there's a commercial gym just across the road from your gym over in Glen Eden.

Shout out, Glen Eden.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like the money goes further into the community if they choose to join your gym.

Yeah.

And even if it costs more,