Dave Letele

How's it going?

Yeah, but how are you going?

Yeah.

Is it less like conferences and all this sort of stuff when you're not in power?

Yeah, with this, you know, speaking about the feeling that so many people are doing it tough, and I often talk about it with people.

You know, you've got, for those people who only just had their heads above water pre-COVID, started to drown.

Then you had the cyclone, the floods, the cost of living, now the fuel.

Why, you know, it just seems like this government's doing nothing, nothing really to help.

You know, it's a little bit, which I'm sure people are grateful for.

But, you know, when you look at what's happening in Australia, you know, with free public transport, they're taking the tax off.

What more could we do?

You know, I say a lot of out there things.

You know, it just seems like, you know, when you've got Nicola Willis up there talking, you've got David Seymour talking, Luxon talking.

and sometimes it seems like they don't have a plan.

And then I think, well, they personally don't need a plan.

It's good that you're not struggling, but I think you should be connected to people that are in the community helping people that are struggling so that you have that direct line in, right, so that you understand what's happening on the ground, you understand the impact that these decisions are having on people.

You know, a lot of the times people that don't have an understanding will think, well, it's just all these lazy buggers.

Go and get a job.

And that's the thing, right?

It's that it's more and more people that are working and people that abuse any type of system.