Dave Letele

And then, of course, you know, you have a look at the show now and, you know, you can see what direction they wanted to go in.

I mean, I was constantly being told that I didn't fit the demographic.

You know, I'm 50 years old now.

You know, the ideal kind of, you know, their kind of audience, what they say is 18 to 34.

You know, that kind of bracket.

You know, you've got all the young tradies and all that sort of thing.

But I don't think storytelling...

has a, you know, an age gap.

You know, I kind of fit into a zone where my thing was more about including people, bro.

And I just told stories about myself that included people.

And yeah, I used to have this thing where I'd wake up every morning, and it happened when I was on Outrageous Fortune, when I was there, and I just felt really lucky to have the job.

And when you come from a poor background, any job, I feel lucky to have.

And it's like you said, these kids these days, we were talking about this before, kids these days, they don't have that experience, but I think every job teaches you something.

Every job.

Whether it's about the hours you should work, whether it's about working with dickhead bosses, every job teaches you something about yourself.

And if you can get to a point where that's important to you,

Then whether you get fired or you leave or you quit a job, you can leave going, okay, what have I learnt?

What have I actually learnt from this?

Because everything should be a learning curve.

And that's what I think.