Dave Ramsey

I'm going to walk you out of that and get you some help immediately.

because shame is one of the tools that's used by physical abusers.

But if you call me up and say, am I being financially abused?

And then you give me 16 different stories.

I'm going to call you out on your inconsistency.

And that's not me abusing someone that's being abused because they're not actually being abused.

They just don't have insight into the money and don't know what's going on with the money.

So it's not actual freaking abuse.

But it is a toxic, horrible marriage.

And yes, she does need to stand up and put an end to the bull crap.

But that's just basic relational advice, not someone that is actually being abused.

Now, if she's actually being abused, she's going to get a different reaction from us on this show.

And so if you don't like how I handled the last caller, kiss my butt and go listen to a different show.

OK, because that's the way we do it here.

We love people.

We love people.

Well, we tell them the truth.

So that's how that goes down.

All right.

Duke is in San Francisco.