David Boree

It's not like they're doing outreach, right?

It's not like they're trying to convert their neighbors or anything like that.

They're trying to convert rationalists, but they don't care about these weirdos living on the property with them, right?

Right.

And again, remember, like Ziz had earlier decided that it would be worth four human lives for her to like get a – she would kill four people to get a shower before work, right, basically?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So these people don't have a lot of value for other people, right?

Now, the court case over the protest arrests dragged on.

And in November of 2021, Ziz and her friends who'd been arrested filed a countersuit against Sonoma County, as well as several individuals associated with CFAR and the venue.

By the time 2022 starts, the pressure is on for Ziz and the people living with her to figure out what they're going to do next.

They do at some point work out a deal with Curtis, who will give them a little more time to fix their RV if they promise to bounce as soon as possible.

Ziz is no longer actively adding to her blog, but she's still responding to comments and communicating with other sympathetic rationalists regularly.

She becomes much more focused in her writing in this period on vengeance, violence, and death, as do others in her community.

Per Wired, quote,

Lasoda and others wrote of vengeance against the timeless decisions of others.

If you truly, irreconcilably disagree with someone's creative choice, i.e.

their choice extending arbitrarily far into the past and future, ultimately your only recourse is to kill them, one Lasoda ally wrote in a long blog post citing Ziz's philosophies.

In the comments, Lasoda wrote, I am so fucking glad to finally have an equal.

Great stuff.

In spring of 2021, one of the rationalist fleet veterans close to Ziz, Jay Winterford, who went by the name Fluttershy, killed themselves.