David Brancaccio

Right?

That's not just the environment.

Environment is an important part of that.

But it's, are we doing anything that comes back to bite us, blows up in our face, and ruins everything for all of us in the future?

But if you're managing for three months, you don't really care.

Chief sustainability officers are often greenwashing.

But if they have the ear of the CEO, they can do good things.

So I guess me and the bosses at Marketplace...

are appointing me kind of the secretary of the future.

I don't know.

We're going to keep working on it.

It's not secretary of the future.

It's probably future effects correspondent or something like that.

Yeah.

Do we have to have a full collapse of the system?

And, you know, it's like Cormac McCarthy novel The Road to get people to say we should have had a V8 and had a secretary of the future.

You know, do you have faith in humanity or not?

You asked earlier, you know, what gives you optimism?

And and I would have had a similar answer.

It's social capital like this.