David Cooper (psychologist)

Right.

Um, in the DOD, I had an app that had been downloaded by 4 million people and I'm like, I can never see 4 million people as a therapist, but.

I can help four million people with an app.

And so really, I think that's what spurred me is how do I do the most good and how can I really use a lot of the tech tools where we see a lot of doom and gloom and horribleness in the news?

How can I use them for good?

How can I use them to help people?

And so therapists and tech is the group of clinically trained folks who've decided to make that jump into tech.

I'm going to go somewhere in between.

I think they're a tool like any tool.

And like a hammer, you can use it to build a house for someone or you can whack them over the head, right?

It really depends on how you use it and how we think about it.

I think, yeah, we've seen a lot of negative, and rightly so, news stories about how these people can spin people up and reinforce delusions and

That's all totally true.

I think at the flip side, we can also use it in helpful ways, right?

I'm trying to work on that with some colleagues right now to give people some helpful ways to use these things like as an interactive journal or, hey, help me reframe my thoughts.

I use it for that sometimes of like, hey, I'm really stuck in a negative spiral.

Can you give me some objective ideas?

Stuff right now are a different way to think about this.

And there's something about it that's helpful.

I'm going to try that, actually.