David Dayen
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449 appearances
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first heard Jul 2026
last heard 18 Sep
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Um so, you know, I think that in any other context, if companies with the profile of an open AI or an anthropic uh were A uh demonstrably doing things that were harmful, and B saying we are building something that's going to
Дстрой.
In any other context, you would not let those companies continue to do what they're doing.
You would haul them in for questioning and you would start throwing around subpoenas and maybe indictments.
And I think that's what uh where we need to get to, rather than uh you know, breaking our brains and listening to lobbyists to figure out some new regulation to save the world.
And um we we don't we don't even have to guess about this, Sam.
I mean the current Save the World Act, it's not the Sam Cedar Save the World Act, I'm sorry, you're not there.
Um but the current Save the World Act uh which is being negotiated by Amy Klobuchar and Ted Cruz.
Oh as long as both of them are involved.
Yeah.
Yeah.
As long as both of them includes includes uh preemption of state
State based AI safety laws like the one in New York and like the one in California.
It includes an antitrust exemption so that OpenAI and Anthropic can coordinate on safety, they say, even though they they can make things safe and work together to make things safe anytime they want to.
They don't need an antitrust exemption for that.
And it includes a uh, you know, or this has at least been talked about, a self-regulatory body, much like FINRA, the Financial Institution Regulatory Authority, which is a completely toothless organization.
It is, it is a captured organization.
So uh, you know, rather than worry about ghost stories or things that uh we're hearing from people's
Who uh you know basically have the same worldview as Sam Bankman Freed, the effective altruists who think about, you know, catastrophes twenty thousand years in the future, rather than listen to them and get all amped up and and and with this idea that we have to do something, we could look at what these companies are actually doing and look at the laws that we actually have and then imply them and enforce them.
Or Chuck Schumer's daughter, who was poached from Amazon to go work for open AI.
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