David E. Sanger

Already inside the Oval Office was Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

We were about to learn why.

And right away, Michael, we had to sort through a few logistics.

So we have an understanding this is only used for your reporting.

So this is what we wanted to ask you about.

I think in two different interviews in the first term, we used the audio to go on the daily and...

The first thing we had to go do was negotiate that we could actually use this recording for The Daily.

Anything for The Daily, Michael.

And we were just a few minutes into the conversation.

Is he on the phone?

When an aide came in and handed the president a note.

Saying the president of Colombia was on the phone.

The country, not the university.

That's right.

The first thing that came to mind was, oh, we have to get up and walk out.

But just as I was getting up to go do that, the president waved at me just like, no, David, please stay.

And the second thing that I thought was, if the president of Colombia is calling and

It's because he's worried about the fact that President Trump said just the other day he better watch his ass because he could be next.

That's right.

And at just that moment, J.D.