David E. Sanger

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2,183 appearances 17 recordings 1 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 2d ago

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wants to get that near-bomb-grade uranium out of the country.
That's right.
So the Iranians, of course, say, hey, look, it's our right as a signatory of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty to produce nuclear fuel.
So we don't want to give up everything.
So there's been a lot of back and forth on that issue.
And the arguments over the weekend were highly focused on just that wording.
Mm-hmm.
You know, Rachel, what's interesting when you talk to those in the Republican Party, including like Roger Wicker, the head of the Senate Armed Services Committee, who have been arguing for finishing the job, it's essentially an acknowledgment that the president has achieved none of the political objectives that he laid out in the opening hours of the war.
And they don't want to go back to a situation where you might get the Strait opened, although there'll be some degree of Iranian control, presumably, but you still have a nuclear program, you still have a missile program, and that the president fundamentally will have conducted 38 days of combat operations and have nothing to show for it from his original objectives.
And when I asked the president about this on the way back from China...
That's when he blew up at me and described the New York Times' coverage as treasonous.
He did, and the Times.
We both got to share in it.
It's really fascinating because it tells you how sensitive he is on this subject.
Because I think he fears if the history of this war is written, if we're in a situation where Iran has once again managed to drag this out and hold on to a threshold capability to build a bomb, he will have failed.
Which is why I think you've seen, Rachel, that in the last couple of days he's started to take a very different tone.
Well, first, Rachel, it certainly illustrates how fragile this ceasefire is.
And there's a fair bit of evidence that what the military was doing was sending a reminder to the Iranians that if the deal doesn't come together, and even if it does, they expect a certain level of behavior.
in the Strait.
Now, in this case, the military tells us they'd seen three things.
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