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David Enrich

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The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

What happened next is that the Republicans on the House Oversight Committee released, by our best count, more than 20,000 pages of emails from Jeffrey Epstein's Gmail account.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

We're frankly, I would say we're maybe a third or a quarter of the way through going through all these emails.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

So I do not know what the totality of it is going to show.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

But so far, the main takeaway is that it's really clear that for years after Trump severed his ties with Epstein,

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

Epstein was still really focused on Trump.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

And it seemed like for at least two reasons.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

One is that he was trying to hurt Donald Trump.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

He was disparaging his businesses.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

He was disparaging Trump's character.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

But secondly, especially in later years, Epstein appeared to think that he had some potential leverage over Trump at a time when the federal government, which was run by Donald Trump, was criminally investigating Epstein.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

And so we see emails where Epstein is calling Trump a dope and demented.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

But we also see emails where he is urging his lawyer or his financial advisor to dig into Trump's finances.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

Well, I don't think anyone should ever put much stock into what Jeffrey Epstein says or writes.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

He is a complete liar with a really clear pattern of manipulating people for his own gain and exaggerating his connections to powerful people.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

That said, we have, through our reporting and other news organizations reporting, we've clearly established over and over again that Trump and Epstein were quite close for a period of time.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

But to me, the takeaway of these emails is not so much what they reveal about Epstein's relationship with Trump as much as they reveal that Epstein, who is always an opportunist and always looking for an edge over people, was doing that here with Trump.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

He could sense, I think, that the walls were closing in on him and that his life, his freedom were on the line.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

And he was desperate to find any edge, any advantage he could grab.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

And one of those edges was Trump.

The Daily
‘He Knew’: What Epstein Said About Trump in New Emails

It was this long ago relationship, but it's still, in Epstein's eyes, had value to him as he tried to evade the criminal justice system.