David Frum

It's great that everyone's so interested in the Jews.

I sometimes wonder, why did we have to be so fascinating?

Well, yeah, but it turns out that there may... Well, a lot of people are fascinated by Jews.

So how do you make sense of this?

Is that you may...

given life and health and the continued existence of the United States Constitution, may be called upon next time to make a choice between someone who is backed by domestic anti-Semitism and someone who won their nomination by making some kind of deal or arrangement or truce with those who do Holocaust inversion against the Jewish state and the Jewish people.

Let me, as we wind up, take you back to the beginning and ask you, as you look back on the political views you had in the earlier part of your life,

Do you now feel regret or do you feel like I got benefit from it even if I don't hold to all of it these days?

The things I believe between age 20 and age 40.

I regret those things or I don't regret them because they're part of, I couldn't be where I am.

And in fact, there's some value to them.

Yeah, I mean, again, this is something I may be projecting my own thoughts onto you.

This is a question I've been wrestling with a lot.

I've been thinking about it.

I've been working on a memoir for a long time, and I've been wrestling with these questions.

There are things that, when I look back on the world of my early political views, things that I thought were important

that were the defining thing, as you say, anti-communism, free markets, free trade.

And that turned out to be something I cared about, but most of the people I was associated with, they never cared about very much at all.

And then other things that I dismissed as irritating or not awkward or embarrassing or marginal paranoias and bigotries and conspiracism.

And that turned out to be really important to a lot of the people I was formerly associated with.