David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH)

Because this was when games moved on to the PlayStation and these other things.

You couldn't just as easily pirate, at least not at first.

So I went down there, did all that, and...

That started the journey of the internet for me.

It started working on these gaming websites, working with programmers, figuring out that I could do something.

I could work on the HTML part.

It's not really programming, but it kind of smells like it.

You're talking to a computer, you're making it put text on the screen, and you're communicating with someone halfway around the world.

So that became my pathway back into programming.

And then slowly I picked up more and more of it.

First,

Website I did with someone, one of these programs from the demo scene that was dynamic was ASP.NET.

It wasn't even actually called .NET.

That was what we started on.

And then we moved on to PHP.

And PHP was when I finally got it.

When it finally clicked.

When conditionals and loops and variables and all that stuff started to make sense enough to me that I thought, I can do this.

100% that's true.

And it's even better than that because PHP to me didn't just give me a start in terms of making my own web applications.