David Heinemeier Hansson (DHH)

Because remember, their first...

victory in the case was actually not much of a victory.

There were about 11 counts in the trial.

Apple basically won 10 of them.

And the judge awarded Epic this one little win that Apple couldn't tell him not to link up to the internet to be able to do the payment processing.

So they want this one little thing.

And Apple, instead of just taking the 10 out of 11 wins and going, fine, you can have your little links, but all these other rules stay in place, decided to essentially commit criminal contempt of court, as they've now been referred to for prosecution, and angered the judge to such a degree that the rule of law in the U.S.

now is

that you can launch an app in the App Store and you don't have to use in-app payment, but you can have a direct billing relationship with a customer if you just link out to the open internet when you take the credit card and then hop back into the app.

And we owe all of that to Tim and Mark.

We owe all of that to Epic.

We're going to launch new apps any minute now.

I hope actually next week to take advantage of this, that revamp the Hey app so that people who download the Hey app off the Apple App Store can sign up in the app

and can then use the web to put in their credit card.

So we don't have to pay 30%.

We have a direct billing relationship and such that they can take that subscription to Android, to PCs, whatever, without any hassle.

And we have Tim and Mark to thank for it.

That's the exact language basically I used in our original campaign.

I will burn this business down before I hand over 30% of it to Apple.

And that sort of indignation, that actual rage is something I try to be a little careful about tapping into because it is a little bit of a volatile compound.