David Jones

He needs a rest at times or maybe to come off the bench like he did against Chelsea and make a difference.

And he wants a like for like.

with Watkins.

He wants an out-and-out striker and it goes back to the Marlon thing finally, which was there is a perception that he didn't fancy Marlon as an out-and-out striker and he fell in between two or three different positions.

Yeah, and I think that if the Tammy Abraham thing is going to be a green light, then maybe that's why he's let Marlon go out the door, because he was like, he's not an out-and-out number nine.

He can play wide, he can play as a number 10.

So maybe there is something in the background that is going to come to fruition sooner rather than later, and

I think he's looking at that like Jamie says, that Ollie Watkins, I'll need a number nine, an actual number nine.

Ollie goes to 70 minutes and then the next one can come on and take that out.

The next one starts the game and plays 70 minutes.

Ollie Watkins is then fresh to then come on and score the goals.

It's going to be one of those things where we look and wait and see.

After the interview, hopefully he'll be able to get the players and he won't be like that again.

Let's switch it back to Everton.

Look at James Gardiner's overall performance in a moment after I first asked you whether you think he was a bit lucky to still be on the field at nil-nil.

Yeah, very lucky indeed, Mark.

He was brilliant today.

But this is his first yellow.

You can see a little bit of desperation there.

Buendia goes across him, hooks him, and that's definitely a yellow card.