David Kipping

Sagan came along and he said, you know, we must be humble.

And he had this kind of call for humility he'd often make.

He spoke so poetically, I actually kind of disagree with him about that statement.

Because I think by making a call for humility and saying, therefore, there's lots of aliens out there, because otherwise it's arrogant to say we're the only ones.

Right.

I don't like that emotional language because it's kind of playing with your emotions rather than your logic a little bit, right?

So I'd rather let's just do the experiment and find out rather than say you're an arrogant asshole because you think you're alone.

That's kind of making me think, oh, I don't want to disagree with Sagan and say we're alone.

To me, that's a bit of almost like preemptive emotional bullying to try and push you into a certain position.

Yeah, for sure.

I mean, this is what I'm saying.

The times keep swinging and swinging, but people often call back to this humility thing.

Sometimes when I say that we might be alone, people say, you must be so arrogant.

You must be like a super Christian or something to believe this.

And none of that's true.

It's just I'm just trying to be objective like it's possible.

That's all I'm saying, dude.

Yeah, let's just go out and figure it out.

And it would be wild if we're the only place in the observable universe.

My guess is there's life elsewhere in other galaxies, though.