David Ko

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It's like just power through the moment. CEO of Calm. Author of Recharge. David Code. Good stress could lead to resilience. You're never really going to have a stress-free work environment. Not everything has to be 24-7, 365, because at some point you've caused a lot of bad stress.
That's a real kind of indicator for you to say, I need to really kind of take a hard stop and figure out how I recharge.
I think there's a lot of things that I'm not calm about throughout my day. I will tell you right now, I am in the throes of my oldest daughter applying to colleges. Even though I try to appear very calm in front of her and cool and collective, you know? And you don't want to be like a helicopter type of parent. There are times where I'm just like...
you know i want to get in there and say something but i realize almost like the best thing for her is for her to go through it and i have to kind of take a back seat and so it's it's kind of going from where you take the wheel to like you're in the passenger seat and then you're in the back seat kind of peering every once in a while but i can't help myself from like i don't know when she first learned to drive by like saying oh i'm i'm stepping on the brake here and there right but uh
That's one thing right now that is probably a little stressful.
You know, the recharge came from a good friend of mine. And we were talking about mental health and I just asked her, I said, you know, how's it going with your kids? And she goes, you know, I was talking to my kids and I just said, how's your battery? And I was like, wait, what? And she goes, well, I said, how's your battery? I said, why?
And she said, well, if I ask them how they're doing, I get the plain fine. And because they're kids, they're just like, I'm fine. But if I ask them like, how's your battery? They're like, well, it's at like 50%. Or so you may need a snack because they're little. Or it's at 75%. She's like, oh, you're okay. Or sometimes they're at 25% and they just need something to decompress.
While we were talking about it, a light bulb just went out. And that light bulb that went on was about like, she took something that at times can be charged, and she took something and really simplified in a way that I think we would all understand, regardless of age. And I asked her, I was like, can I run with that? And she was like, yeah, sure, whatever, right?
And we still laugh about it, Brenda and I, because she's like, wow, you actually took it. And I was like, yeah, I used it as a theme. I talk about it. I go to clients. I'll go out. And it just kind of resonates with people because it's simple. And it doesn't kind of draw out any emotions. It just says like, hey, how's your battery? How are you feeling?
And I think that sometimes that gets lost because we try to make it bigger sometimes than it is. And it's really nice when you can kind of just simplify it and just ask, yeah, how's your battery? How are you doing? I love the question, how's your battery, even more than...
That's right.
Yeah, and I try to do it really simply. I have found, and I'll talk about my own kids at times, when I ask them that question, how their battery is, I notice that they check, like most people, they check their phones quite often. And at some point it just becomes like a reflex and they don't even know they're checking it.
But when they do look at it and the power's down or it goes yellow or it goes red, they get a little panicked. Like, oh my God, I got to charge it. Imagine my surprise when we're in like airports and they're like going out to people, can I use a little of your charge, right? I think we've all been there where we don't have a charger and you're like, I need something. Can somebody help me out?
Most times people are really kind and they'll just, you know, kind of help you, especially if you're a kid. I thought about then putting it into zones and I put it into four zones. And I just said, you know, if you're at 75 to 100, you're probably fine. And meaning that, you know, you're in a zone where you're just moving along.
If you're at 50 to 75, you're probably in a place where you might need to start to think about how you may want to recharge. If you're in that 25 to 50, it's time to start figuring out, take a break. You may need to take a walk. You may need to put down the phone. You may need to stop the litany of Zoom calls that you're on right now, right?
And if you find yourself zero to 25, that's a real kind of indicator for you to say, hey, something's probably not right. And I need to really kind of take a hard stop and figure out how I recharge. And recharge can happen in a number of different ways. And so I've often talked about when I've gotten into that zone, I just kind of almost go for a walk. I sometimes go outside.
I take some deep breaths. I do a number of things. Sometimes I may need a workout. A workout really helps me to recharge on a personal front. And everyone's a little bit different, and they'll go to different techniques. And so in the book, I list a lot of things in the book that you may do. You may do one, two, three, four, all of them.
And they're just really techniques for you to figure out what works for you.
100%.
100%. And, you know, it's funny. You and me are the same on batteries. I keep my battery pretty charged as well. I have an electric car too. I marvel at people who could take that electric car battery down to 5%. I can't do it. That stresses me out. I'm stressed out when they tell me these stories. Oh, I took the battery down to 5%. I'm like, seriously? How?
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