David McCloskey

So there's a host of different reasons why the CIA might have been more reluctant than Mossad.

But also a lot of the sort of mixed responses came from people who were blending criminality into the mix.

And I think it's safe to say that after he had been on his kind of work release program down in Florida in 2008,

that plenty of Intel services would have soured on him, right, as having that record.

Right, you would have been interested in particular prior to 2008.

It really begs this very interesting question, which is, okay, if the answer is yes,

How would an intelligence agency use someone like Epstein and for what purpose?

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It's actually quite early in my time, but I'm already furious with you.