David Naimon
speaker
4,074 appearances
10 recordings
1 series
first heard May 2026
last heard 24 Aug
David Naimon’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.
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Or not.
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Introduces to the theorist and the narrator and their relationship with each other.
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For me.
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And do you f do you think that the difference also with the two the conversations in just us and the conversation here is as contentious as the conversation here is in triage, it's between two people who see themselves on the same side in a sense, and the same they're in a movement with great disagreement versus in just us, you're like reaching
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Even to the side of the opposition, essentially.
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Right.
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We have a question for you from another, but before we hear it, I was hoping we could hear the opening two pages of of triage.
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So as this section alludes to, from the days of college, the theorist and the narrator develop a ritual or serious game where each time they see each other they collapse to the ground.
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Their relationship over the decades is
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isn't close in the sense that they aren't in each other's lives in a regular way.
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Their lives aren't enmeshed day to day.
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But on the other hand, they are very close because of this pact.
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And the absences between the last time they see each other, they seem like generative absences when they check in as in these opening pages, with years having passed.
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they evaluate and challenge how each other's lives have unfolded.
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I think simply by the presence of the other in their lives.
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They're mirrors and and provocations for each other.
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Much of the book circles this question of collapse, what it is, what it might mean and not mean.
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By beginning from this place of collapse, not just for the characters, but for the reader.
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There's a certain relief, I think, to acknowledge this place we are at, even if we are all at it in in varying ways, versus the discourse of hope, which often at least for me feels like it can become tyrannical that one must will oneself beyond reason to a sort of marshaled optimism.
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I'm thinking of lines like we stayed vigilant to our falling as our way of apprehending life and all its crimes, every cry taken in with each breath, and collapse was an antidote to an unbearable but born disturbance we glimpsed in the face of each other.
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