David O'Doherty

Exactly.

Yeah.

Classic O'Doherty, Helen Kupter.

We are sort of aware towards the end of the meal that we're slightly keeping him awake.

Because his head's in a dish in front of you.

Because you would be saying something and then you would look at him and just he's slightly removed.

Like in normal times, it might be if you mentioned a friend who'd passed away and the person was just having a moment.

You know what I mean?

where they're just sort of away with their thoughts a little bit.

But in fact, I haven't been referring to sad things.

I'm just trying to keep a man awake.

oh god great we finish the meal with Negronis ah it's a class oh nice yeah it's a lovely I say nice I don't like they're too strong for me but it feels nice they do have the large cubed ice in them

I think that might be something.

If we get a new house, it'd be cool to get a new ice tray.

I know you can put an ice tray in an old house, but the large square ice cube, do you know what I'm talking about here?

But these ice cubes are the size of a small Rubik's cube.

we stroll home and we get back uh here say goodnight to tom ballard and the report has arrived for the house where he's given us his verdict it's a 58 page report oh you just want yes or no gavin

A lot of that is photographs.

But the thing is, it's all the bad things is what the photos are.

Yeah.