David Peterson

I better give this a shot.

And best decision I ever made, best having him fire me for a terrible attitude was also, I think it worked out really well for both of us because it was the spark I needed to really turn things around.

I mean, that is the most perfect way to look at it as far as I'm concerned because if they're coming back, they realize that they lost an opportunity and credit to them.

Even if they did need to go, they realized, okay, this was actually my shot or at least this is something that I shouldn't squander.

So any leaders that have...

So I used to believe for a long time, I like to think that my career as a leader has evolved.

And for a long time, I didn't believe in culture.

In fact, when I did interviews, I'd have a kid out of college say, so what's your culture?

And I was like, first of all, you're reading off a list of scripted questions.

Our culture is we make money.

We don't have beanbag chairs or pinball machines or anything like that.

We just we make money.

And that was actually wrong.

Like...

not embrace it.

We had a culture, but we didn't really cultivate it.

It was starting to edge in the wrong direction, in fact.

And having started to surround myself with some other leaders in the industry and hearing what the way that they talked about their teams, it was really inspiring because I needed to grow as a leader and understand empathy, right?

And respect with them and not just yell at them every time they did something wrong.

But if you do that, then you can hold them accountable for their attitude.