David Plouffe

Right.

But remember, he was the kinder, gentler Republican.

I mean, if you watch the Bush-Gore debates and watch Bush, I mean, it's just a master class.

So he was also critical of his party.

He gave voters who are concerned about Republicans an avenue because his sense was, hey, man, I'm a different guy.

I can work with Democrats.

That was his whole message.

It was so powerful.

So I think history suggests that there's an opening.

And I think it's even bigger right now.

Because people are very frustrated.

We have market failure.

They don't like their two political choices.

You know, they're concerned about the economy.

They think Washington may be irachievably broken.

And so new voices who suggest a new path forward who are also honest, like it's just not honest to say this is all the Republicans fault.

It's just not.

Well, Brendan Boyle, like I, is a still mourning Philadelphia Eagles fan, so I have a great sympathy for him.

Ugly loss.

Listen, my point was it kind of goes back to the point I was making about you have to envision a crowd listening to a candidate.