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David Remnick

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The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And just recently it was reported that Microsoft is considering whether to sue OpenAI and Amazon for a deal that seems to go around Microsoft.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Explain what this is all about because it seems like a mess to me.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Andrew, how big is OpenAI?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Does it make a profit?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

They certainly had lots and lots and lots of investing.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Where does the money go?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

So this is great for the environment.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

But that's where the money is.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Everywhere.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

I'm going to ask you both this first, Ronan.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

I get the sense that we all know what Elon Musk at this point means and what Elon Musk wants.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Sam Altman is more mysterious, it seems to me, Ronan.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

What does Sam Altman want?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

What's the grand ambition here?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

To be the richest man in the world?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

At some point he says that he was more interested in power than he is in money.

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

What's your sense of that?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Andrew?

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

And I personally— Or he might argue that something happened in the research on AI that—

The New Yorker Radio Hour
Sam Altman’s Trust Issues at OpenAI

Made him less alarmist.