David Slucki

And, you know, looking from the outside,

Jews probably look reasonably homogenous, but that's not the truth of the Jewish community.

There's many ways in which we're diverse, religiously, culturally, linguistically, and politically too.

So even when we're talking about terms like Zionist, anti-Zionist, non-Zionist, even within those frameworks, there is a huge diversity of thought

So I expect that the Royal Commission will hear and ought to hear from a range of Jewish voices, including Israel critical voice, including anti-Zionist Jewish voices.

I think we do need to hear the spectrum of the Jewish community.

And that's something that helps people understand the complexity, the humanity, the nature of our communities to see, you know, warts and all.

that we are simply humans and we do move about the world as like everyone else.

I mean, I think there's a couple of different aspects.

One of the things that I think has been already really important and will continue to be is the storytelling aspect and the helping people understand what the Jewish community is and who the people that comprise that community are.

The other question is about what will the recommendations be?

And I think already seeing some of the recommendations from the interim report is really helpful to see that, okay, are there gaps in the way our security and intelligence apparatus works?

But it can't only be about what prevents a Bondi.

It has to also be about what prevents a 10-year-old being spat at in a public place because they're wearing a kippah.

It can't only be what can the government do from a policy perspective to shape this.

The question has to be around how do we create...

cultural change how do we strengthen the multicultural fabric of this country that allows for diverse communities to you know walk about the world freely and that that's true not only for jews that's true for all diverse culturally religiously linguistically nationally it's true for all communities how do we make sure that our democracy and our multicultural society protect people

Thanks, Ruby.

I really appreciate you having me.