David Turner

And I don't, while the man on that phone in this episode is not what I had in my head, is exactly what I feel like would be.

Like it would be involved in something like this.

The way that he came across, what's interesting is the very beginning of this, just like you said, as you're kind of stating things to him, you're getting those, yep, yep.

We can almost hear the gears turning in that man's head.

He's kind of figuring out, all right, where am I gonna go with this guy?

Right.

Yeah.

No, I mean, it's chilling.

It's truly chilling.

And then lo and behold, which I should have expected.

He goes, yeah, I'll talk to you if we meet face to face.

like all right that's exactly what the movie character would say um i love i have to commend you though this again this has got this has got to be up until this point in in your production of guilt as a whole there's got to be one of the more nerve-wracking conversations that you've had um your willingness to just kind of meet him where he was and be like

Yeah, man.

Well, uh, you've kind of got a reputation, so I don't know that I can do that, you know, and you kind of, you just kind of lay it out like, dude, it is not in my, the best interest of my health to really meet face to face with you right now.

Um, let's start here.

Um, I gotta commend you for just having the awareness and, and man, just the balls to do just to, just to stand, go toe to toe.

Um, yeah.

And I grin just kind of went across my face and I'm hearing you kind of do that.

Cause man, you navigated this really well.

Um,