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Dean Ball

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
404 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

But like Lockheed saying that, that's like a purely technical restriction that has to do with the like physical characteristics of the jet.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

That's quite different from, you know, some of these anthropic restrictions, which feel more like public policy types of restrictions, right?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

Um, I still don't know how abnormal restrictions like that are.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

One of the things that I think gets lost in this debate is that the Trump administration itself, like the Trump Department of Defense, before it was called the Department of War, in July of 2025, agreed to a contract with these restrictions in it.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

So it's not like, oh, this is some incredibly beyond the pale thing.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

Like, sort of seems like, you know, a lot of people looked at this, including, like,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

you know, DOD lawyers and stuff, right?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

Like there's a lot of people with a lot of experience in looking at contracts who weren't like, oh, this is super abnormal, right?

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

So it does feel a little bit like we're freaking out about something.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

It's perfectly fine to freak out about something that, you know, previously people didn't freak out about, but I think we need that.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

That context is valuable to have.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

The last thing I would say specifically on the like, Dario has to, the Pentagon has to call Dario.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

You know, I've seen that reported that Dario explicitly asked for that.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

I don't think that's true.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

I'm just going to come out and say that I just simply think that there's either context missing here.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

Look, a lot of people are making, I've heard a lot of people make claims about what both sides have said in this that can't possibly both be true.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

So like someone is lying here and I'm not going to make a general claim as to who is lying.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

But I do think that like, I would just be shocked if,

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

if the actual thing that like the CEO of Anthropic said was, I want you to call me in the event that there are hypersonic missiles.

Plain English with Derek Thompson
"American Democracy as We Know It Might Not Survive This Technology"

I just, that doesn't sound, it's like one of those, there's jokes that people make sometimes about columnists where like a guy like David Brooks will just like, or Tom Friedman famously, will like make up interactions that they had with like cab drivers or whatever.