Dean Burgess

And for me, I was actually taking a moment looking out the window on my way in.

I'm thinking, this is what it's actually all about.

It's not about anything else.

All this shit in the media that becomes so detracted and so far off who we are.

Yeah, and that's the thing too.

Even though we're out, and I'll talk to the boys that are in the hole now with the media and the legal situation, the war hasn't finished for a lot of the guys.

It's just followed them home.

And now we're getting scrutinized and portrayed as these evil monsters in the media and getting dragged through the courts.

The war's not over.

the enemies just changed uniforms and you know like taliban don't even wear uniform the enemies that we have in this country wear suits you know they're paid off by lobby groups and you know they're they're forgetting who protects them at the end of the day and it's interesting when you were talking about nick mckenzie there because i'll tell you now if if he went over and did a war correspondent job say in the next couple of months whatever and he got put in the bag and uh the cry went out through the agencies and they said oh we need some

We need some hitters to come over and pull this guy out.

Guess who'd be going?

It'd be two-commando or SASR, and we would be happy to go, even knowing what he's done.

we would happily get on that bird and go and drag his feeble, weak arms back to this country and put him back where he's safe.

I would, yeah.

I would.

And the thing is, too, when you just touched on it a second ago, I've lived a pretty comfortable life post-service.

I wasn't silly with my money.

And I could have just stayed out of the public space and just –

you know enjoyed my four children and just had a happy life with my my beautiful my beautiful partner and i can't sit idly by and just let it happen to the guys i just can't because as you as you mentioned like i signed on the dotted line i'm australia first i'm from new south wales country like it doesn't get any more country than where i'm from it's cold as shit there's nothing going on up there and you're just outdoor outside all the time that's that's the real deal um but