Dean W. Ball

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"The Cognitive Revolution" · AGI Lab Transparency Requirements & Whistleblower Protections, with Dean W. Ball & Daniel Kokotajlo · 12 Nov 2024 podcast

And I believe it'll be cheap for me to do that.

And I'm uninterested in the question of like is that AGI?

Is that super intelligence?

I think that's super intelligence.

I think I'll be able to do unbelievable amounts of stuff with that.

And yeah, I I feel like superintelligence is gonna come before AGI in some important sense.

I just think of it like people are not thinking about what are going to be the implications if like every plumber in America has access to like one hundred Harvard trained microeconomists to do a pricing model for him and excellent coders and all that stuff, right?

Yeah, it's like, you know, it might well be that the best use of my time when we're in that world is not so much being a think tank scholar, but instead doing janitorial work while wearing an Apple Vision Pro uh to create training data for a robotic foundation model.

Yeah, like

Totally.

No, no, no.

And and so

And we get into this is a good segue into the transparency stuff because I think this is where we share the concern.

Because I said that as, yeah, that's my prediction if things go well.

But there are many scenarios where this does not go well.

And it is not obvious that it goes well by quote, I hate when people say by default, but by default.

Oh my god, if if we have centralized control over this, this could end up being very, very dark where artificial superintelligence exists and it's like the CIA, Jane Street, and Moderna have it and not you.

And yeah, like you're cleaning bathrooms while wearing an Apple Vision Pro.

Totally.

Um and that's why like open source has been important to me for that's why I fought hard on open source and I'm very sensitive on that issue still.

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