Deborah Roberts

a mom of two kids, an interior designer.

She had a lovely marriage, it appeared, to a respected fire captain, James Schwalm.

The family lived what looked like an idyllic life next to a ski slope, of all things, so sort of a basic winter wonderland existence.

And that's where she met her husband, by the way.

She and James fell in love.

in this ski area.

But on January 26, 2023, what appeared to be a fairy tale kind of life really became a nightmare.

Ashley's body was found burned beyond recognition inside her car at the bottom of a ditch.

Well, of course, investigators initially thinking it was an accident thought this was just a tragic, horrible story.

And they quickly discovered that it was not an accident.

But a cold, calculated murder.

And the big question was, who would want this young mom dead?

And how did they zero in on their killer?

Well, now we're going to take a good look behind the scenes of how this investigation played out and how the Snow played a pivotal role in their investigation.

And there's also some material we're going to tell you about that you didn't get a chance to see in our 2020 piece.

So Juju Chang, my colleague, is here.

Hi, Juju.

Hi, Debra.

Welcome to the podcast.

You and I are always talking in the hallway about what we're working on, what story we're working on, and invariably you have one that just really grabs my attention.