Deborah Roberts

Well, also what was touching, too, is that even though this happened a long time ago, Joan is still a crusader. And DNA was a big part of this story because when – The police were investigating. They had unknown DNA. So we're going to take a quick break.

Well, also what was touching, too, is that even though this happened a long time ago, Joan is still a crusader. And DNA was a big part of this story because when – The police were investigating. They had unknown DNA. So we're going to take a quick break.

And when we come back, we're going to talk about how Joan helped change laws surrounding one of our most powerful crime-solving tools, which is DNA. This episode is sponsored by Get Contact. Do you remember back in the days of cell phones when the only people who had your number were friends and loved ones who were actually trying to get in touch with you?

And when we come back, we're going to talk about how Joan helped change laws surrounding one of our most powerful crime-solving tools, which is DNA. This episode is sponsored by Get Contact. Do you remember back in the days of cell phones when the only people who had your number were friends and loved ones who were actually trying to get in touch with you?

And when we come back, we're going to talk about how Joan helped change laws surrounding one of our most powerful crime-solving tools, which is DNA. This episode is sponsored by Get Contact. Do you remember back in the days of cell phones when the only people who had your number were friends and loved ones who were actually trying to get in touch with you?

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Take control of your calls, block spam, identify unknown numbers, and stay connected securely. Get Contact is available now on the App Store and Google Play. You can download it today. I am back with Blue Browning, one of our producers here at 2020, who worked with me on this most recent story.

Take control of your calls, block spam, identify unknown numbers, and stay connected securely. Get Contact is available now on the App Store and Google Play. You can download it today. I am back with Blue Browning, one of our producers here at 2020, who worked with me on this most recent story.

Blue, we got into the advocacy that Joan Berry has done around DNA after being so frustrated with the slow progress in the investigation of her daughter, Jonna's murder. And of course, in the show, we touched on that. But I mean, she has done so much and continues even still to and people know her. They know her name because she got involved in state government.

Blue, we got into the advocacy that Joan Berry has done around DNA after being so frustrated with the slow progress in the investigation of her daughter, Jonna's murder. And of course, in the show, we touched on that. But I mean, she has done so much and continues even still to and people know her. They know her name because she got involved in state government.

Blue, we got into the advocacy that Joan Berry has done around DNA after being so frustrated with the slow progress in the investigation of her daughter, Jonna's murder. And of course, in the show, we touched on that. But I mean, she has done so much and continues even still to and people know her. They know her name because she got involved in state government.

I mean, she really has become a crusader.

I mean, she really has become a crusader.

I mean, she really has become a crusader.